Video of me pitching


#1

My dad got creative and made this short video of me pitching (and practicing). Feel free to add any advice or comments.


#2

Curve ball looks very solid! Would you say that that’s your most effective pitch right now?

It looks to me like you’re really wanting to move fast at the beginning of your motion (somewhat herky jerky), but then you slow down as you lift your leg/move forward, losing a lot of the speed that you appear to develop. If anything, I would do the opposite: Build up momentum throughout your wind-up, or move fast and stay fast with your tempo.


#3

I think my curve is my best pitch right now. I’m working on getting stronger so I can hopefully increase my velocity on my fastball.

I see what you are saying about momentum. I started using this motion about 2 months ago, trying to build momentum and getting down the mound. I’ll try keeping my tempo up and see how it works. Thanks


#4

I’ve been working on increasing velocity by speeding up my delivery. I pitched this way in my last game and struck out 5 of 6 batters I faced. The other batter popped out. I asked one of my team’s coaches how fast he thought I was throwing - he is a former minor league pitcher, btw. He thought the low 80s. I was blowing pitches past batters. I heard the other coach tell his batters - “Choke up - he’s throwing hard”. It felt good. Here’s a clip of me practicing:


#5

I agree with mcloven’s comments above.

Also, your front foot plants in a pretty closed off position while, at the same time, your head and spine tilt pretty good to the glove side. So you’re getting yourself all twisted up which looks a bit awkward and puts some stress on your front hip, knee and ankle. I would make one simple suggestion: move your starting position to the glove side of the rubber to see if that cleans up your posture, smooths things out and lets you direct more energy towards your target. Cleaning up your posture could lead to other benefits like delayed shoulder rotation and better hip/shoulder separation, a release point closer to the batter, better movement, etc.


#6

Thanks. I’m going to try your suggestion. I like Tim Lincecum’s motion, and the way he drives down the mound. I see in my videos where I come to an upright position at leg lift - which I don’t like. I’ll try to get more hip drive and hip/shoulder separation at foot strike.
Here’s a video of a pitcher whose deliver I like - Cobi Johnson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zjyrHa7_Bk
What do you think of his mechanics?


#7

[quote]Here’s a video of a pitcher whose deliver I like - Cobi Johnson:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zjyrHa7_Bk
What do you think of his mechanics?[/quote]

Given the body type and the “blood lines” as scouts like to say… this young man had the hounds sniffing him out in number.

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Interestingly one individual has taken it upon himself to pursue the “baseball bloodlines project”.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=23771

The obvious question, is the “sired” success rate the consequence of genetics, nurturing, or just being given greater opportunity having been born into the MLB family?

Needless to say, neither the “sired”, nor their siblings have identical spots.

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Johnson did indeed get drafted, but not until the 35th round by the Padres… much lower than some had projected. Don’t know whether that was because he was commited to go the college route or not. Nonetheless, the commentary on the MLB. scouting report was…

I rarely evaluate mechanics without multiple video angles. One may suspect a problem from one angle; however it usually takes another to confirm it. Looking at the PG 3B view I initially felt Johnson was inconsistent rotating around the front hip joint, coming up a little short at the finish.

Looking at front view revealed a little more…

I enjoyed all the momentum building potential at the beginning of the delivery but it must find its way to the end of the kinetic chain. No doubt scouts love the “smoothness”, and yet the hardest throwers usually exhibit some “violence” in the final frames followed by a continuation of momentum around the front hip joint.

Certainly some would think there is potential for Johnson to go from the low 90’s to the mid to upper 90’s. My guess is Tom House & Co. would move him to the other side of the rubber in an attempt get hips and shoulders more squared toward home plate at release. However, would this alone be enough to push him consistently into the mid 90’s and above?

What changes can be made at this point are certainly debatable. Then again many have gone on to successful careers throwing “across their bodies”, sacrificing mechanical efficiency and upper tier velocity for a unique release point and greater deception.

Jared Weaver for instance…although still done so with a great deal of INTENT and VIOLENCE IMO. Who enjoys facing him?

Like father like son?

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[quote]There were a few Florida-based scouts in attendance that saw Johnson’s father, Dane, a 6-foot-5, 205-pound righthander, as an amateur. Dane, who pitched in the big leagues, was a second-round pick in the 1984 draft out of Division II St. Thomas (Fla.) by the Blue Jays, and he currently works as Toronto’s roving pitching instructor.

Cobi, whose high school is a 20 minute drive from the Blue Jays’ spring training facility in Dunedin. has studied pitching mechanics with his father since a young age.

“His delivery is very similar,” Cobi said. “He is big on over the head and hands breaking right when your knee gets up there so it is smooth and comes out well.”

During his playing days, Dane was known for his arm strength and breaking ball.

“He likes to break out the VHS tapes every once in a while and say, ‘Watch this if you want to see a real curveball,’” Cobi said. “He has taught me everything I know. He has set up programs for my mechanics and for throwing schedules. He is my throwing partner. I am so fortunate to have such a great father.”[/quote]

Overall Cobi has a really “nice delivery” getting himself drafted and into one of the countries top college baseball programs. Surely he will be adding additional weight and strength between now and his next draft eligible period. However, it’s going to take more than that to make him an early round pick IMO.

Then again, maybe not…

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#8

Thanks for the info. I didn’t know who Cobi was and had never heard of his father. I look all over the Internet for pitching ideas and various deliveries. I used to imitate different pitchers when I was younger, just for fun (I did a mean Dice K, btw).
I see what you mean about Cobi coming up a little short at the finish. I come up short too with my foot aimed to the right of home plate, so I’m going to work on getting my plant foot straightened out and heading for home. And I’m also going to try to delay my right side until my foot is planted, like Lincecum. I’d like to duplicate Lincecum’s delivery, but I think he’s more limber than me. Lol.
I’ll post more videos as I work on things.


#9

Drake said:

Drake,
I admire your attempt to figure things out for yourself. I recall summer days when two kids went to a driveway equipped with glove, tennis ball and a bat. Taped on the garage door was a strikezone and on the driveway a chalk mark indicating a rubber.

The next several hours were spent hitting and pitching, often while impersonating the distinct deliveries of the day, Juan Marichal, Louie Tiant, Bob Gibson, Catfish Hunter, Steve Carlton, Tom Seaver, even the young Nolan Ryan.

Indeed this was a great deal of fun and there may be some benefit to finding a “model” that is physically similar to you and studying their delivery.

Drake said:

Ultimately, however you have to recognize your own uniqueness. The only way you’re going to optimize your throwing abilities is to discover what your unique assets are and develop them as best you can. There is no escaping having to go through your own process of trial and error if you hope to fulfill your potential. You may do the best Lincecum impersonation in the world but unless you’re a clone it’s not going to optimize what you do best.

Ever notice how no two Hall Of Fame pitchers look identical in their deliveries? They may have begun by watching others but eventually they began moving in their own unique way.

The goals you set are important At each level things get faster and aside from injury, most baseball careers come to and end due to one of three things all involving speed…running speed, bat speed, and throwing speed.

I realize most MLB pitchers have a large repertoire of pitches but understand this took many years to develop and no matter how good your secondaries are, everything begins with the fastball. Careers don’t end because a player can’t throw a great cutter; they end because a player can’t throw hard enough, with accuracy, to compete at the next level.

As you develop your mechanics it’s always good to be getting some kind of feedback in this area. Long toss is where most begin that process, as in how far can I throw? However if you can afford it I’ve heard good things about the latest version of pocket radar. When you make an adjustment in your delivery you want to know if its helping you to throw harder or just the opposite.

Anyone else tried the latest pocket radar? I heard the first version was not so good, but the latest model is more accurate. I’m just an old Stalker myself…

Also if you intend on doing a lot of practicing by yourself I recommend some version of the pitching pad. You can get it with a frame or you can just hang it on a fence. You can use it in the basement or garage during the winter although be warned the original pad will give a loud pop sound when you hit it. Nets may be better indoors.

http://www.thepitchingpad.com/

Of course you can paint a strikezone on a tarp, put tape on a wall and find an open field to long toss. This worked just fine for Mike Mussina, Billy Wagner and hundreds of other major leaguers. The old cliché is as true as ever…“Where there is a will, there is a way”.

The last item I’ll suggest is a med ball for an assortment of exercises and throws. Be explosive when doing slams and wall throws…max intent…more important than a lot of reps. Radar your med ball throws also, and keep track of your progress. Needless to say weight training and flexibility work need to also be a part of the program.

Good Luck! :bigtup: