Thanks for your response. I totally agree 100% with athletes responding to different methodologies, great point! That’s the basis of everything of we believe as well.
Our training methods are a bit different than most. We promote Kinesthetic awareness and feel. It’s my belief that coaches and players rely too heavily on sight, (perception of others) and spend most of their time trying to “please” by looking and moving in a fashion that others (coaches) view as appropriate.
Once coaches begin to make changes it effects the internal timing. Again, my definition of timing is “Timing is the idea that each movement reaches its destination in time or space and enables and promotes the next movement”
Ron’s angle, in my opinion, is that he has found a way to lower the risk for injury by others following HIS model, not theirs. When this happens, it’s no different than what he views wrong with the instruction in pro baseball.
To me it’s no different than what Ron preaches about pitching instructors in pro baseball, he just takes a different angle.
I understand the importance of backward chaining when a change is needed. However, to suggest that everyone should be doing the same thing is misleading and probably not the best avenue. When a change is made, it affects everything else and often interrupts fluidity and timing.
It’s just my belief that a player should embrace being different. Based on reading your response about pronation of the shoulder, you seem to believe as well as I do, it’s not the answer for all arm problems. With pitching, everything effects everything.
When the foot strikes during the throwing motion, there is pronation (internal rotation) occurring at both the hip and shoulder.
If the hip cannot decelerate the pronation (internal rotation) that occurs at foot strike when throwing, the posterior shoulder will have to work that much harder to decelerate.
This leaves the athlete more vulnerable to syndromes such as a tight (or fibrotic) posterior capsule, anterior translation of the humeral head, impingement syndromes, and early onset degenerative changes. This call be better avoided by a glute (hip) that functions well in all three planes of motion and is strong.
So, I think it’s misleading to players to suggest that the #1 focus should be a “forced” pronation of the throwing arm. I just feel there are way too many variables in that equation to spend that much time trying to train and revamp movement patterns. Once, a player reaches a certain age, the movements can be influenced but not entirely changed.
So, why not focus on building the delivery and timing around the engrained movement patterns of the arm (arm action).
It’s also my belief that a player will move accordingly to the end goal. If you are constantly preaching that pronation is responsible for slowing the arm down, the body will “slow the arm down” by moving slower.
That’s also my problem with the connection balls. I see players so hell bent on trying to move and look a certain way that it takes away from speeding up out of the glove.
Thanks again! Good stuff and great discussion!