The article’s premise was well understood as always!
It boils down to you trying very hard to explain how the mechanics you believe in that have been Kinesiologically challenged by actually credentialed experts as injurious and why you are still OK with, by edict of Paul.
You have had these injurious mechanics explained to you in anatomical and kinesiological detail as to why they produce the injuries you see with them.
I have never heard you explain in the same terms why these detailed explanations have any holes. The back up is on you. So far all we get out of you 2 are platitudes, personal attacks and mis-directions.
While others can learn from these posts, I am talking to you not “all of us” as you are trying to place yourself amongst. I believe others understand what has been said. It is you that keeps up the inverted timing protection banter.
Here, I’ll give you one change that is easy to understand and what Tommy John did to eliminate his poor “arrival” mechanics in much less than a year.
He was told to take his hand back by supinating (thumb up) his forearm instead of pronating it (thumb down) like your favorite arrival position produces! This is a very easy change that eliminates the scourge of “late forearm turnover” and allowed him to continue safely. It’s in no way very,very hard as your Guru believes.
The secret is performing ½ of your Humeral/forearm transition phase during the pendulum swing phase. This lessens the valgus bounce back by half. Ligaments hold bone to bone and have no contractive properties as Paul believes, they posses no “memory" either and when overstressed as your mechanic produces, tears.
I’m 60 years old but could pitch competitively if I wanted to because I did change my mechanics to the healthy arrival. It did not take that long to attain the change over, I now throw thousands of maximal pitches a week to my batting clients without inside elbow stress.
Now if we are to have this conversation you need to quote me without changing what I said. "I do it all the time with no effor" is not what I said now is it?
What video, I got out of there as fast as I went there. I have seen plenty of video of Kershaw and he is no example of the “inverted W” and very close to where he should be to avoid the injuries it produces. He also has a clean straight (no scapular loading) Humeral arrival then transition to drive that will save his shoulder from degrading.Paul is so far from understanding this that he will never get there.
[quote]”Verlander wasn't on there” [/quote]
Good, My mistake, I glanced the stills, like I do all stills with a suspicious eye because of their merit as proven by your use of them. Verlander also gets close to where he should be to avoid IW pathologies.
Is that what you got out of that? It is not only an issue, it’s a big issue because it makes pitchers late in their Humeral/forearm arrival that causes debilitating Valgus overstress on the UCL at the start of their forwards acceleration phase and no thanks to you for recommending it!!!!!
Would it do any good for you?
I have already explained in detail why this mechanic is injurious in those that use it and why it is going away rapidly in those that have the correct information.
What do you mean your? I was talking about my clients.
The same engrams that build and store a mechanic can also be added to. I’ll bet even you have seen someone throw over the top and from the side proficiantly?
As I asked you before and got no answer, have you not taught a pitcher a new pitch? Don’t you make changes in those that do not scapular load to scapular load as Paul demands you to do?
I see you have been listening to your Guru again and taking it in hook line and now your sunk.
How is it I can take a client and change his mechanic and you can not? You have been sold a bill of goods and got false info. Or you have taken partially good info. and taken the extreme embellishment belief.
Quid pro quo!!! I answer all your questions, always have. How about you answering mine? When are you going to post that pronation hack article 3 we have all been promised, I know you have it, maybe Paul has put the governor on you? He now has had plenty of time to rewrite! What control he has over you.
What happened to your sophomoric “secret” analogy?
I have given you this answer in the past and we are talking about your original post here not me and my techniques, if you need to change the subject because it is uncomfortable to talk about the injurious force application you have been talked into then start that thread. Stay on the track. You and Paul use this tactic no stop, this must be another technique learned from him and the hook is very deep.
Why would you think any level of ball is unorganized?
These changes are tried at all levels and at all times but progress is always advanced and even in higher levels many are now getting it and I don’t have an defeatist attitude like you and Paul with your constant, things can’t be learned, changed or added to mentality.
What failures? Your imagination is huge and unmanageable it seems. I would prefer to have an adult conversation where people who lurk can read with out the fog Changing the subject is pure fog.
This always means, I want to comment here and in the future but I have to use words like “chuckle” along the way.
No disclaimer necessary. Knowing this information will allow you to find the truth and actually use it. Please, get involved!!!
The Kinesiological expert that took Paul Nyman down for recommending injurious mechanics like the “inverted W” (elbow pathologies) and “scapular loading”(shoulder pathologies) is Dr.Mike Marshall. I’m pretty sure you already knew this?