He is now seeing the good and bad of pitching submarine. His curve or slider is going to break flat or rise if he throws hard enough (at 67 he doesn’t). His fastball (for some of the guys who commented already) is a NATURAL sinker. He is probably getting overside spin 11-5 or 10 -4, so his fastball will run down & away from lefties and into righties.
For lefties, I would suggest a circle change which should have the same motion as his fastball only slower speed.
Some questions, proviso’s, and comments.
Does he chart his pitches? Hopefully he does or should start. He needs to keep a good log of how effective his frisbee curve is.
He will want to be very careful with where he throws this pitch. Front dooring this curve is great until you get a good pull hitter who deposites it over the fence.
It is a great temptation to try to back door a fastball (how weird to think of it this way-ah submariners…) but this is also a homerun pitch, many times you leave it over the middle of the plate about crotch high. If you are going to try to do this I would suggest using the change up instead.
Keep the frisbee curve/slider away, away ,away especially to 3,4,5 hitters or anyone the catcher judges to be a pull hitter. To lefties,
you might consider jamming with a “frisbee” up and in, but I would be very careful. I would definately miss inside with this pitch!
Above all play to your strengths which are getting ground ball outs. I think for a submariner you also want to avoid going deep in the count to any hitter.Good advice for any pitcher, doubly so for a submariner who will have less pitches.
Wild idea, you might write to Gene Garber the old braves relief pitcher. He had a viscious change up, he might at least give some idea of how he threw it. Also, you might talk to a softball pitching coach since they deal eveyday with people of the… uhm… submarine persaussion, LOL.Ian.