Shoulder Issues


#1

Hi I’m a college pitcher and I am hoping to get some advice related to my pitching shoulder. At the beginning of the spring, I had some discomfort in my right throwing shoulder near the front and top of the shoulder. I spoke with our school’s medical staff and they said that they believed it was an impingement. They told me that I wasn’t risking further injury to it by continuing to throw so I kept throwing. The problem is that the pain was more intense the higher my arm angle was so I began dropping my arm angle to compensate. When I drop my arm, however, my fastball flattens out and I lose velocity and control. As of right now, if I throw from about a 3/4 arm slot, I have mild discomfort in my shoulder once in a while. When I throw from over the top though (where I am more effective) I have pain in the front part of my shoulder. I was wondering a) if anyone had any advice as to how to best treat an impingement (if thats what it is?), and b) if someone could recommend a good orthopedic specialist in the atlanta, georgia area.


#2

This is happening to me right now also its really uncomfortable throwing over the top, any help?


#3

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My son had similar issues earlier this season and chose to experiment some and this is what it looks like:


#4

If it is mild discomfort then it most likely is the tendon and or ligament that is inflamed,(which is good)rather than rotatar pain! The biggest question I would have is do you need a bunch of time to get loose or does the area you speak of feel “tight” even during outings? If so its the area trying to mend but you keep throwing without getting totally loose. I know this from personal experience and from 2 pitchers on my H.S team that I coach! One being my son! Try taking extra time rubbing it out before you warm up and take all the time you need getting loose! Let me know! Good luck!


#5

Also don’t rule out that the high arm slot may cause it! Some coaches fall in love with “over the top” when some guys are different! Plus raising that arm slot will rub the tendon over the clavical over and over!


#6

Left side, you have touched on two issues that would make one’s blood pressure go through the roof!!!
First, there’s the matter of some coaches falling so much in love with the idea of throwing over the top that they try to make every pitcher throw that way, even if it’s not comfortable for the pitcher. I’ve seen too much of that. Those coaches are prone to insisting “my way or the highway” and will not even consider another arm slot, another delivery—and then they gripe and moan and squawk and complain and kvetch when the poor pitcher winds up having to have Tommy John surgery and misses a year or more.
Second, there’s the matter of not being sufficiently warmed up. Some pitchers don’t need all that much—take, for example, Mariano Rivera—but the majority needs all the time they can get. Again, we have to point a finger, this time at those coaches who are in such a hurry to get the pitcher into the game that they run the risks you mention. Why, there are even some coaches who will not give a relief pitcher enough time to get loose before hurrying him into the game. And then they grip and moan and squawk and complain and kvetch when THAT pitcher winds up having to have Tommy John surgery and misses a year or more.
I was fortunate. I had a pitching coach who did not believe in screwing around with a pitcher’s arm slot—he firmly believed that every pitcher has a natural motion, and the thing to do was work with it and show that pitcher how to make the most of it. I was a natural sidearmer, and I used the crossfire extensively, and he showed me how to take full advantage of it. I also took my time getting warmed up before the start of a game or coming in to relieve; this guy believed in throwing every day, so I would alternate between just playing catch and doing a bullpen session, and if I had to relieve between starts that counted as throwing every day. Result? I pitched for more than two decades with nary a sore arm or a sore shoulder or a sore anything else, because that arm was always loose and flexible and ready for action.
And I never lost a game. :slight_smile: 8) :baseballpitcher:


#7

“Goddess of the slider” biggest thing that bothers me is pitchers not getting time to get loose! (1)pitchers should be stretching and warming up separate from the team (2) some kids, (I coach H.S),don’t even know that feeling of being totally loose! That’s why some kids seem to find it at the 60 pitch mark. My kids get loose at their pace knowing how much time they have. If you get loose quick you jump right to the big muscles and don’t get the small ones loose and that’s what I think is happening to the kid that opened the discussion.


#8

Left side, I’m with you there. It’s absolutely essential that a pitcher take as much time as he needs to get thoroughly warmed up and ready to go. In fact, there’s a rule in the book that if a pitcher has to come into the game in a hurry because the starter was injured and had to leave the game, said reliever is to be given as much time as he or she needs to warm up thoroughly and be prepared to pitch. (I wonder how many coaches are aware of this rule.)
Ever see Mariano Rivera in action? There’s a beautiful example. He will go down to the bullpen in about the seventh inning, and he’ll go through a whole routine of stretches and stuff to get the loosening-up process in motion, and then when he starts throwing he will start easy at first and then put more and more on that one pitch he has, so when he has to come into the game he’s ready to go, just the customary eight warmup throws and he’s all set to break some bats and get those outs.
You may be right about the kid who started this discussion—many, if not all, of his problems just may stem from not being sufficiently warmed up. 8)


#9

“Goddess”…some would call it a dirty little trick but oh well…I call it savvy,nearing the end of one of our guys outing we will pull up like he heard something pop or felt a sharp pain and come out. That way when we bring in a new pitcher he can get the time he needs! This of course is when we have to pull a guy from the field to the mound because 8 pitches doesn’t cut it!