[quote=“LankyLefty”][quote=“palo20”]What specifically should not be copied by an amateur? The actual exercise? Load? Rep scheme?
Most pros have well developed training programs by some of the smartest strength coaches in the business. Is there anything about these programs that should not be copied other than the idea of “maintenance” vs. “maximizing ability?”
Why is it that MLB don’t come back throwing 3 mph harder the next year? Is it because they’re not training for it, or is it because going from 92 to 95 is a lot harder than going from 75 to 78.
I would not dismiss MLB programs as “not good enough” for the amateur athlete. While I don’t disagree with the original premise, making a blanket statement that MLB pitchers are working only to maintain is a little premature. They may work extremely hard and may have a killer workout program, but the obvious reality is that major gains are not going to be seen in a 28 year old like they will a 15 year old.[/quote]
it has nothing to do with how good the strength coach is. The best strength coach in the world is going to design programs differently for a huge name major league player who MIGHT make slight gains at best vs. a less developed player who has a lot more to gain from an aggressive strength and conditioning program. Cressey talks about this here: http://ericcressey.com/newsletter158html
the mlb player may have a great workout for their goals, it may even be a good workout for a younger player to do, but its not designed for that younger player, with their goals in mind.[/quote]
Like I said above, I’m not disagreeing with the general premise. I’ve seen plenty of articles on what MLB Player “X” does in the offseason (I’m looking at you Stack Magazine), and I know that if Johnny 15 Year Old does Roger Clemens’ exact workout program he’s not going to be throwing 95 all of a sudden.
My question was, what part of MLB training is not to be copied? Are we implying that all MLB training programs are just banging out a bunch of leg extensions and they’re outdated? Or are we implying that MLB players may be doing a ton of single leg work, deadlifts, chin ups, and other solid exercises, but their load and volume should not be duplicated by an amateur?
What if the perfect “offseason maintenance” program for an MLB pitcher happens to match up perfectly to fit an “aggressive” program for a 15 year old?
Using the article’s example, a 30 year MLB player may have an offseason where he shows great improvement in squats, deads, push ups and chin ups. On the field, this would result in minimal, if any, improvement. Maybe velocity stays a tick higher longer into the season. That might be best case scenario.
But, let’s say our 15 year old does the exact same workout and makes similar improvements to the aforementioned exercises. This will affect his on field performance a lot.
So in this case, a well developed program, which may have had different end goals, worked perfectly in each case.
If the point of the article is that MLB players have outdated workouts, or they don’t work that hard in the offseason, or they don’t NEED to work that hard in the offseason, then I disagree completely.
If the point of the article was that an amateur may need to take a few more risks than a pro, maybe throw a few more medicine balls, maybe really push to get his max squat up a bit, maybe do more long toss, then yes, I agree.