pitch count has no purpose?
so you saying if a pitcher had 150 pitches yet still was effective you would leave him out there, tearing up his arm[/quote]
if hes not in pain yes
if i was the manager i couldnt tell if he was hurting or tired by the way he pitched if he is getting guys out
plus any pitcher would take theirselves out to prevent injury to themselves
[quote]Kelv, you just chose the 4 worst offensive teams in the majors. Of course their hitting is going to suck!!! (forgot you too, Twinkies, although their middle is really good) Umm, for the # of steroid users, see MITCHELL REPORT and add a fair amount of minor leaguers and others who haven’t been caught.
Your logic doesn’t make any sense. What if I said, “Look at the teams who have barely 2 or 3 good pitchers. Phillies (starters, I say), Twins, Pirates, and Royals.” Does that reflect on the league? No - it just shows the worst.
I do believe that the Steroid Era is 1995 - 2008 (give or take a few years). It is winding down as McGwire, Bonds, Canseco, etc. are getting out of the league. I am not saying that there aren’t any steroid users out there – there are.[/quote]
my posy was a responce to orange peels post
not just the quoted part
still why dont managers realize this about the fourman rotation