Friendwood45’s,
“They will dazzle you with brilliance. They will baffle you with BS”
You mean you never experienced dedicated serious people who gave you a positive vibe?
“It is hard for me to decipher between the two in the realm of pitching experts”
It’s because most of them are not actually educated in their field, even the few credentialed people butcher facts by their effort, many general trainers fall here…
“because of the language barrier.”
have you ever ask your self why you look at it as a barrier and not a door?
“I do like the new way people are instructing and thought that goes into it, but is there anyway to close the language gap without getting a doctorate? “
I learned about Marriam Webster long before middle school ended, no doctorate necessary. There is no embarrassment in asking for help at any time. Just go for it.
I have a suggestion for the inconvenienced coaches or parents out there!
There is a science that covers our game, it’s called Kinesiology, exercise physiology, Motor skill aquisition and Nutrition. The terms were set by the discoverer’s a long time ago and are easy to come by and understand.
Let your curiosity be your guide and new information and descriptive scientific words will not get in the way of your old approach, it will take you only as far as you want to go. Freedom allows for you to choose complaining about it with no effort.
The biggest problem as I see it is the meanings of “yard terms” that are all over the place, example, you hear and read to the detriment of followers, most athletic instructors say “stretch” a lot when they are describing the correct kineiological term “lengthening” of muscles when stretch has little to do with what is actually happening, but because this is the yard term used, people are led down a false narrative when this happens, just by it’s name. This is why when science names things they try to use fact base descriptive combination names.
When dealing with youth (adults whatever floats your boat) medical issues related to throwing and pitching only exacting scientific terms and explanation need be used that are normally easily understood with the smallest effort.
Do no harm
Steven Ellis,
“performance coaches were looking to validate their methods”
They need only trust what they have been taught, no validation necessary, universities around the world have all ready figured out how it all works physiologically, you only need apply it. Thousands of clinical research projects, not Johnie past player or sports psychologist playing kinesiologist.
“as they’ve started to play an ever more important role to organizations because of how expensive injuries are.”
Ya think !? Yet the leading overhead throwing expert in the world Dr. Mike Marshall has been Black balled out of the MLB since he last worked for them as a player and his research has eliminated joint injuries with joint clean Kinetic chains. I think they are having there own effort problems with the terms, then balk
They had a chance (Ortho’s panel) to give him a research grant this year that they offer, he applied for it to explain how to avoid injuries but the people running things think the way they are doing it (pitch counts) will be better. This means more surgical opportunities for them. CRICKETS.
“On the whole, I’m not sure any of it is working to make the game more fun for fans, a better “product” so to speak.”
Since Dr. Marshall’s info on forearm pronation and better rotational effort by staying taller and “sport specific” training we see in newer arrivals at the MlB level and every where else, velocities have jumped way up as predicted. Have you wondered why the arm healthy forearm pronated fastball Sinker is being deployed more and more every year? When the rest of the info is absorbed through time, batters are going to have to adjust or look like fools and you will see another astounding new revelation in batting that again was all ready produced in the past.
“I’m not sure there is any indication that all this emphasis bio-mechanical analysis (which is where the technical jargon the comes in) is helping curb injuries, at all.”
Biomechanical analysis on all ready known pathomechanics gives you info on pathomechanics, not on healthy mechanics. This is where all pseudo research fails in mitigation! The new approach brought forth by people like Dr. Marshall’s and his tenets is making a huge difference in those that participate.
I have been teaching these for 20 years now and have had no joint injuries since.
What you are witnessing is the same old approach continuing to fail by non engagement like you see everywhere. It starts by not attempting to understand the new improved paradigm by lesser effort about the terms and having incorrectly stated how it works in their pasts.
“But it’s all here to stay”
The traditional throwing and pitching notion is not going to be pathomechanically mitigated until actual physiological changes are made.
“Maybe should we start a glossary of definitions on this site?”
Absolutely!!! It’s been needed to be done for a long time now!
Let the terms begin. How is this going to be done? Maybe our excellent moderator coach Baker can start a sticky list he can edit as we participate. I would suggest a list with the scientific meaning matched with the yard terms.
