Mussina's 1-seam fastball?


#1

I got these jpg pics of mike mussina ( unfortunately I can’t figure out how to post the pics in this forum) … and they show him bringing his arm up as he plants his foot and you can see that he’s holding the ball like a two seam fast ball… EXCEPT his middle finger is lifted off the ball from about the middle knuckle to the tip … presumably the ball is then getting relased just off of his index finger …

I threw it this weekend and (I’m a righty) the ball was tailing in and down to righties like a sinker … didn’t have much speed though… but really good movement… I’m not sure how much I could control it in a game…

Anyone know about this kind of grip?

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#2

all right… does this link work [/img]

http://images.ewoss.com/MSimages/NYJJ10909230146.jpg

or try this one and click on the pic itself to enlarge [img]

http://sports.ewoss.com/mlb/news/post-event-coverage/20050923/v781109-23-05-0018EDT.aspx

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#3

Here’s another link of Mussina holding this one finger grip again… although this time it looks like a four seamer/one finger…

Try:

http://www.baseballxxl.de/Stars/_Stars_3/mike_mussina03.jpg

Or:

http://www.baseballxxl.de/Stars/_Stars_3/_stars_3.html

-page down to the mike mussina section, it’s the top right pic in his section…


#4

You may not be able to see how much his pointing finger is bent. It may be a knuckle curve. If it isn’t bent he could also have his ring finger on the ball and it could be a change. Not enough information in the images.


#5

I originally thought curve, given how his finger is right on the seam. I then checked ESPN.com and it says he has a knuckle curve.


#6

yeah… I think the second set of links he might be throwing the knuckle curve, but for the first set of links he is gripping it along the seams like a 2-seamer…


#7

Look at the two pictures and it looks like he seems to grip it differently.

In the first picture his finger is on the seam (ala a curveball). In the second picture his finger is across the seam (ala a 2-seamer/sinker).


#8

But the questions here is: has anyone heard of elevating the middle finger to throw a fastball … certainly he wouldn’t be lifting the middle finger to throw a curveball!!! … Perhaps it’s like a sinking changeup??


#9

I just found a page full of pictures of Mike Mussina…

Based on what I see on this page, the grip in the photos above isn’t a knuckle curve. Rather, given how much he is choking the ball back in his hand, I’d say it’s more likely to be a change-up.

Eric Gagne does something somewhat similar with his Vulcan Change-Up.