My son had problems with a course at school when he was in 8th grade. It wasn't the subject matter, but something else.
I went the gambit of this-n-that, well... how about all kinds of scenarios.... nothing.
Then I suggested ... " Son, suppose you had difficulties with your girlfriend, you'd figure out a way to get around that now wouldn't you?"
He said, " Dad, I don't have a girl friend."
For a moment there I had these deer-in-the-headlights freeze frame.
My only response was.. " Well there ya go.... see."
We both stood there looking at each other until he gave a glancing look off to the side, did a "hmmmm" look, then walked away.
The next marking period his grades went up, just marginally, but he passed.
That evening at supper I remarked.. " now son, aren't you glad we had that little talk."
He looks at me, pauses, then tells me he's getting married Tuesday! The look I got from his mother is a look only a wife can give a man - I nearly chocked on my chicken ala king.
Sometimes a guy just has to work things out, stumble a bit, and stuff like that. I found that answers for a lot of life just isn't ready for the "talk." Sometimes life throws lemons at ya, and the best thing to do is to make that squinting face, shake your head, pucker up and try something else.