[quote=“joearnz”][quote=“Roger”]I noticed the following things:
First off, thanks for everyone taking the time to reply.
(1) Leans sideways (toward 2B) at start of stride. This seems to coincide with the collapse of the back leg to initiate the stride. The head and shoulders need to stay slightly behing the front hip into foot strike but should not otherwise lean towards 2B. Starting with the knees bent more may help minimize the “collapse” and the resulting posture change. Keep in mind that when a pitcher dips, he’s simply adjusting to a posture that he has the strength to maintain - a more athletic position if you will. He might as well start in that position and eliminate the extra movement during his delivery.
Do you mean he tends to lean back (i.e. towards 2nd base) when posting in the beginning of the windup? Or did you mean he’s tilting off towards 1st base from the front view?[/quote][/quote]
I was referring to the point where he has turned into the closed position for knee lift. At that point, “back” to me means towards 1B and “sideways” towards 2B. I meant sideways - towards 2B.
quote Appears to be rather upright throughout the entire delivery. This probably has the effect of shortening the stride. Again, I’d suggest starting with the knees bent a bit.
I actually thought he may be bending his post leg a little too much. Do you think this is not the case and he needs to be bending even more?[/quote]
He starts off standing very tall. Them he does take a dip at the beginning of his stride. But if you look at the angle of his front knee at foot plant, it’s not bent that much. Many pitchers plant the front foot with the front knee bent close to 90 degrees. Now, he doesn’t necessarily need that much of a bend. But the lack of a more bend is, to me, an indicator that he isn’t building up momentum and getting as long of a stride as he could.
quote Hips start forward very late - after the apex of knee lift when the knee has started to drop. This has the effect of minimizing momentum. I suggest pushing the hips toward home plate sooner (like right before the knee reaches its apex) and faster. This will feel awkward so he needs to stick with it and give it a chance.
Agree…I’ve enjoyed your posts on momentum and the House theory. I’ve definitely seen this in some other MLB pitchers who’ve been analyzed on this site. It’s just basically starting to move forward as the knee comes to it’s apex, right? Starting the hips moving forward if you will, which likely will result in him having to get his stride foot out quicker, correct?[/quote]
Correct and correct.
quote Back foot lifts off the ground instead of dragging and then lifting. This indicates that the head and shoulders are probably getting out front too soon which results is throwing with just the arm. He needs to keep his head and shoulders stacked upright longer. As the shoulders rotate, the lower back will arch to hold the head and shoulders upright. The back will release about the same time the throwing arm snaps forward.
I’ve always had this going on with him and havn’t been able to correct it. His back toe is off the ground at ball release. One of the few MLB pitchers I’ve seen who also does this is Curt Schilling who’s back toe is up around 4 or 5 inches at release. I’m not quite sure how I can get him to keep this toe down until release. Is there any drills that may work?[/quote]
Remember that for every recommendation you receive, there will always be someone who deviates from it. There are no absolutes. But, by and large most of the top pitchers keep the foot down. Now, you also have to remember DM’s point about pitching being a holistic thing. You won’t just change the back foot without changing something else. House uses the analogy of the sail and the keel of a sailboat. When the sail tilts one way, the keel tilts the opposite the way. Thus, if the back foot is lifting early, that indicates the upper body is tilting forward early. There are some NPA drills that put the body through the leading with the hips, tracking forward while keeping the head and shoulders stacked, and rotating the shoulders around an upright spine. Examples include the mirror drill and the towel drill (total, rocker and stack & track variations).
EDIT: I should have read ahead to see DM’s post. Yeah, what he said!