[quote]1) Nolan Ryan was reported to have been able to throw a softball 330 feet at age 16. I’ve heard this from a couple of sources, don’t know how credible it is.
- One specific player’s routine and success is not enough to prove or disprove any one training method. There are too many variables. Just because Nolan Ryan may or may not have thrown on a line doesn’t mean that is what works for everybody or that max long tossing is a waste of time. None of this contradicts what I’ve already said. [/quote]
You fail to watch the video and learn something from two great players, well Lanky I have the perfect video for you to watch where Nolan PERSONALLY says he never arc’d the ball for distances. Feel free to stop sounding condescending yourself, subliminally of course youre pretty slick, and post some credible sources to disclaim mine. Don’t see much research on pitchers pulling, except for dead lifting.
[quote]1) by this logic, none of us on this entire website are humble. We all create accounts so we can go share our own thoughts, opinions, questions and experiences with a online community. If that makes me vain so be it.
- again, this is an irrelevant comment to the debate[/quote]
well ok youre in vain, i believe that is a sin? ot is it vanity ?
[quote]1) interesting study, although it is irrelevant to this debate. Would be happy to discuss hip mobility on another thread.
2) No need to be condescending. This is about discussing ideas not talking down to people you know nothing about[/quote].
Oh you know something more? Please share and post some resources so its not just opinionated and biased.
I am sure its irrelevant, just make sure you aren’t rotating/hyperextending from your lumbatic region, as this will cause serious injury. Usually in most side arm throwers this happens frequently because of improper mechanics (randy Johnsons and hudsons lower back surgery). Knowledge is relevant my friend.
[quote] the abstract is too vague to help your case much. I would be interested in reading the entire study. Some questions
23-170% of MVIC is way too broad of a range to draw conclusions from. This essentially tells us nothing. It says that from max leg lift to follow through, there is anywhere from a minimal activation to a moderate activation of some of the lower body musculature. It doesn’t specify which muscles, which phases, etc. Which is why I would like to see the full study because the abstract does not provide any useful conclusions at all.
let’s say, for example, that they found extremely high muscle activation in all 5 tested lower extremity muscles. What does this tell us? All it says is that in these 11 “highly skilled baseball pitchers” there was high muscle activation. Plenty of these studies use collegiate pitchers that throw 80 mph or less (i.e. demonstrating horribly inefficient mechanics). I would be hesitant to draw any conclusions from studies like this that don’t look at pitchers throwing at least 90 mph because otherwise you’re looking at less than efficient mechanics. [/quote]
I paid the few dollars to read this study so I understand what the legs need to do to produce force up the body. I mean how can you drive a car without knowing where the gas and the brake pedals are??
And again what you’ve seen is a nice opinion but not frankly relevant to the debate. Son, if you read the research instead of relying on your luck and your superior debating skills, you would find that pitchers land will more than their own body weight at front foot landing, how is power anything soft? i post documentation to prove my opinions so that means they are opinionated facts right?
[quote]1) your attitude is what has almost gotten you banned on this site before. Don’t be condescending and maybe people will “open their minds” to you.
Blewett hasn’t said this, there is no need to try to muddy his reputation because you disagree with his “push-pull” ideas.
Just because an athlete is 6’10" does not invalidate laflippin’s point, but if I was him I would have chosen somebody a little more normal sized to make a case for the “pull.” Bob Gibson perhaps? [/quote]
My ability to be truthful has led me to being suspended from this site, as some new ideas are not as conventional as some members here. Most just go by “he say she say” or the person with the most posts
I have our emails conversations, please don’t talk about things you don’t know about, I believe you told me this before.
sorry but there is some serious force going on in his back leg before his upper body is cocked to throw the baseball, watch it in slower motion its probably too fast for regular eyes.
quite honestly im surprised you havent research everything you could. i guess it’s true people only hear what they want to hear. Or read in this case.
BTW pitchers do not hop or jump off the pound (ok bring up Jordan Waldon so i can prove another point to you) this is a rapid extension of the leg to front leg extension that pops the hips forward