for a high school pitcher for a seven inning complete game what is an ideal number of pitches they should be at. and what would be to much?

That’s really an individual matter, and it all depends on how you feel and how things are working for you. For a pitcher who is economical with his pitches, whose command is really working for him, he can go nine innings and throw only 85 or 90 pitches; on the other hand, a pitcher who is having a lot of trouble can go just four or five innings and throw that many pitches—at which point, perhaps even before that, he gets taken out of the game. You really have to go with how your stuff is behaving, whether you’re hitting your spots, whether some batters are playing “foul off pitches” a lot—but if you’re going seven innings (this has to be higher than little league) and throw seventy, seventy-five pitches, that’s not too much. 8)

Interesting question - shows your thinking beyond the “you’re up kid!”

Your approach is worth noting a lot more than just “how much”. And I realize that in high school, it’s feast or famine with respect to coaching and defining yourself as a pitcher.

But, defining yourself as a pitcher is YOUR first step in improving you lot, the quality guy that someday may be an investment by a college club, or even a draft option …

By definition - what kind of pitcher are you. All gas, junk-man, speciality pitcher, etc.

Now take that definition and see what fits you best - starter, reliever, special guy. Now if your the kind of pitcher that gets thrown to the wolves by a coach that has little else … it kind-a makes little difference what type … your foundation should be “take care of number one - YOU”.

But, let’s assume that your one of the type above:
b[/b] A gasser, nothing but heat. Your pitch inventory would be four and two seamier, slider, and an off-speed. You’re going to expend yourself right out of the gate, a howitzer in spikes. Your expectations should be pretty high with respect to quality matched with quantity. You’re probably going into the first three innings - if your an ace, you’ll probably mark yourself for a range of 30-40 pitches, taking into account any number of balls and strikes, fouls and hits. If you’re out of the range on the high end - you’ll probably have to pace yourself starting with the fourth inning. Why? Because by the third inning, you’ll more than likely have gone through the other club’s batting order - you’ve seen what they got… AND THEY’VE SEEN WHAT YOU’VE GOT.

If you’re shutting the door as a closer, you’ll get one -… maybe two innings worth of work… go over 20 pitches and you’re on borrowed time. Your arm’s health will not be an issue here … just your effectiveness.

(B) A junk man, nothing but move and grove. Your pitch inventory would be a scooter-slider, curve-slurve, fork-ball, palm ball, and some self invention stuff. If you start (unusual) you’ll have good success in the first two innings … but then the parade will be over, and the third should start testing your inventiveness. The bottom of the order will give you the most trouble … simply because you’ll over pitch yourself ( working harder, not smarter.) Base runners will steal you blind after the third and you’ll probable max out at about 70 pitches by the time the fourth mercifully comes to an end. If, on the other hand, you’re put in as relief during the third inning or after, you should cruse for about three innings before your replaced with a closer. Your count will more than likely be between 40-60 pitches.

© A Special guy is unusual in the high school ranks. But if your slotted as such - you’ll either have a specific role for a specific situation, a particular batter(s), game scenario, and so forth. You re count shouldn’t be stretched beyond 40 pitches … not because of over working your ability … but it’s the “end of the rope” ability wise that gets you pulled.

All of the above is tendered on fact that your playing and competing makeup will add plus and minuses to all of my suggestions, so be prudent with estimating where you’re being used and how you see yourself. If your coaching staff hasn’t had a conversation with you about where they see you fitting in and how, start the conversation yourself using some of the ideas from above.

Coach B.