Improving the 2-seam


#1

Thoughts on really making that 2-seamer move? Because I throw about 75 mph, I can’t just blow hitters away with 4-seamers anymore. My 4 seam has been getting hit hard lately and I was just wondering on ways to use my 2 seamer effectively. When to pitch it, how to make it move more, and where to pitch it.


#2

When Jim Brosnan was with the St. Louis Cardinals in 1959 he had occasion to talk to pitching coach Clyde King about a problem he was having with both his fastballs. He complained that neither his four-seamer nor his two-seamer was working for him. So King called in a catcher and had Broz do some throwing for about ten minutes, using both pitches, and then he advised the pitcher to drop that four-seamer and go with the other whih was actually working better for him. Brosnan became a sinker-slider pitcher and had great success with that combination for several years. You might consider doing the same thing; you have a good two-seamer and could develop a very good sinker with it, and add something like a slider—and I don’t know what your arm slot is, but if you throw sidearm or close to it you might have a lethal weapon there. And don’t forget the changeup; every pitcher needs one!


#3

no i throw overhand. i actually was considering just throwing the 2 seamer and once i read your post i realized i should. i do also have a decent change and a good slider. i actually feel like i can control my 2 seamer better then my 4 seam. thanks for the advice


#4

I threw from a very high 3/4 arm slot so my four-seam fastball was punishing but never got much movement with the two seamer.

I did however ALWAYS grip the ball along the seams using a two seam grip when throwing fastballs to the pitching arm side, and then I gripped the ball using a four seam grip when throwing fastballs to the glove arm side.

Again, I didn’t get much movement on the two seamer but mentally the feel of the grip locked in the location of where I wanted to the the pitch in my mind and reinforced good control. I encourage you to try it.


#5

One word: Pronate


#6

@Dhup
If you want to pitch the two-seam effectively, throwing it inside on right-handed batters is a good idea. When you grip the ball, put pressure on your pointer finger. Also, try throwing them four-seams outside twice, then use the two-seam inside.

Hope this works,
Kyojin