Yankees have the fourth best record in the american league
we have a better record the al central leading twins
why arent we making the playoffs
i never understood the playoffs too good
- You should put this in the off-topic section.
- As a fellow Yankees fan, I feel your pain but injuries killed us and we just werenāt good enough this year.
you cant make the playoff when you finish 3rd in your own division. now go buy some big free agents and lose again next year because as we have seen this century, that doesnt work.
tdbaseball - I know the playoff system and we didnāt deserve to make the playoffs this year. But 2 points to you:
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CC Sabathia, Manny Ramirez, and Rich Harden were all big pickups and they didnāt help? Yankees should get one of either Sabathia or A.J. Burnett, and you canāt argue against the quality of those pitchers. And Nady was another pickup that wasnāt all too badā¦
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Have you not noticed people named Chamberlain, Wang, Hughes, Cabrera, Gardner, and for the older set of Yankees Posada, Pettitte, Jeter, and Rivera? We should empty out Giambi, Pavano, and possibly Abreu (Pettitte should retireā¦). You canāt see that weāre going to the farm system and lessing our dependecy on the market?
ya the yanks have been trying to actually make a farm system and its helping alittle. its a proven fact that since the last time they made world series, all they have done is try to buy big name free agents who most have turned into big busts. ya if you get aj burnett im seeing a carl pavano signing all over again. a guy who can be good but injury prone.
The Yanks need alot more than just AJ Burnett. Though their offense is solid, some of their hitters are getting older and showing age. (Posada, and Jeter are on the decline). They also need more than one new starter. Who knows what will happen with Hughes or Stewart. I think you can put Hughesā fastball on a string, it may be the flattest fastball in baseball.
it just doesnt seem right that we have a better record than a leading team in their division and were not making it
with our injuries we were still in the top 10 in the league record wise
top five in the al
somehing like
Angels Rays Sox ? Yanks
with the injuries we were still in the in it so without them next year ???
WORLD SERIES
Well tough kelvin, if you cant be the top team in your division, or even the 2nd best team in your division then you dont deserve to be in the playoffs.
Obviously the Yankees big names isnt working for them. Who the heck cares about all the big names you can rattle off for the Yankees. You know what that leads to? No World Series rings this century.
[quote]Well tough kelvin, if you cant be the top team in your division, or even the 2nd best team in your division then you dont deserve to be in the playoffs.
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were 3rd in our division yet still in the top 5 in the al
what does that say about other divisions
the yanks have have the best players and beent a elite team for so many years does it matter if we miss one year
but how many playoff berths
how many winning seasons
look at the teams that havent even made the playoffs this decade
[quote=ākelvinpā][quote]
the yanks have have the best players and beent a elite team for so many years does it matter if we miss one year[/quote]
Just because you have by far the biggest salary, that does NOT mean you have the best players. You donāt have a pitcher as consistent as Halladay, A closer like Lidge (although you are close on that one), an amazing second baseman like Utley, A shortstop like Hanley Ramirez, Or C.C. Sabathia. You Have A-Rod, and Bobby Abreu is good, so is Mariano. Damon is also good as well, and Iām probably missing some players here, but come on, do you SERIOUSLY think that the yanks have the best players? Not even close, not even a comparison with the Phillies, Cubs, or Angels. Better Luck Never. 
all star caliber at every spot and on the bench
out
abreu
damon
gardener
nady
matsui
in
jiambi
sexson
cano
jeter
rodriguez
betimit
our bullpen lacks a little but is still better than some
youre say lidge is better than rivera
what really
they have just about the same amount of saves this season
wow mo blew 1
Yankees are beast
guys seriously i know its hard but please ignore this fool. did you see the players he named from yankees who deserved to be all stars. hes like an animal if you stop feeding it it will just go away.
the starters are all star caliber
damon abreu matsui
A-Rod jeter cano giambi
pudge
posada
sexson
nady
cabrera
[quote=āDefalco35ā][quote=ākelvinpā][quote]
Not even close, not even a comparison with the Phillies, Cubs, or Angels. Better Luck Never. :D[/quote]
one of these things is not like the othersā¦the phillies!!! you gotta be kidding me. theyāre lucky they got guys like durbin and madson to cover for their awful rotation after hamels and moyer.
coming from a yankees fan i gotta say youāre a huge homer kelvinp.
How is the Phillies rotation awful if they are fourth in the NL in ERA? Letās see:
Hamels- no need for explanation.
Moyer- see Hamels.
Brett Myers- horrible stats for the year, but 7-4, 3.06 ERA, 88 IP, and 75 kās after the break.
Joe Blanton- worst year of his career, but has been consistent. Phils are 9-4 in his starts. His line with the Phils: 4-0, 4.20 ERA, 70 IP. Consistent
for a four starter.
Kendrick- sucks and needs to re-learn to pitch.
J.A. Happ- very succesful call-up. K leader of the International League in limited time. With the Phils- 1-0, 2.28 ERA, 4 GS, .188 AVG.
That is a completely solid rotation and you obviously donāt know your stuff.
As for the bullpen:
Lidge: 41/41 saves, 1.82 ERA. Hasnāt blown a save or given up a lead the entire year.
Durbin: 2.91 ERA, leads NL in IP with 86.2.
J.C. Romero: 2.75 ERA, 70 IP.
Madson: 2.99 ERA, 82 IP.
Even the long-men like Clay Condrey and Rudy Seanez have ERAās from 3.60 to 3.30.
Iām sorry theyāre not the 2000ās Aās or 90ās Braves, but that is solid pitching.
[quote=āBakersdozenā]How is the Phillies rotation awful if they are fourth in the NL in ERA? Letās see:
Hamels- no need for explanation.
Moyer- see Hamels.
Brett Myers- horrible stats for the year, but 7-4, 3.06 ERA, 88 IP, and 75 kās after the break.
Joe Blanton- worst year of his career, but has been consistent. Phils are 9-4 in his starts. His line with the Phils: 4-0, 4.20 ERA, 70 IP. Consistent
for a four starter.
Kendrick- sucks and needs to re-learn to pitch.
J.A. Happ- very succesful call-up. K leader of the International League in limited time. With the Phils- 1-0, 2.28 ERA, 4 GS, .188 AVG.
That is a completely solid rotation and you obviously donāt know your stuff.
As for the bullpen:
Lidge: 41/41 saves, 1.82 ERA. Hasnāt blown a save or given up a lead the entire year.
Durbin: 2.91 ERA, leads NL in IP with 86.2.
J.C. Romero: 2.75 ERA, 70 IP.
Madson: 2.99 ERA, 82 IP.
Even the long-men like Clay Condrey and Rudy Seanez have ERAās from 3.60 to 3.30.
Iām sorry theyāre not the 2000ās Aās or 90ās Braves, but that is solid pitching.[/quote]
oh please. YOU obviously dont know your stuff by mentioning theyāre fourth in the nl in era. why are they fourth?! because of their pen! myers had one great month! ONE to make his post break numbers look decent. you fail to mention his 5.23 Sept era which is consistent with his numbers for the rest of the year. SAME with blanton. one good month in august and then look at his September and the rest of his year. iām not even gonna mention happ because its ridiculous to even bring him up. heās pitched in all of 7 games the whole year
But that justifies that their pitching is terrible?
Myers had eight straight starts where his ERA was under 2.
And while Blanton hasnāt been stunning, heās been an improvement over who else they had before.
Look at Blantonās numbers and youāll know heāll be better. Heās a good starter, not great, but definitely good enough.
EDIT: the Phillies starterās ERA is 4.23, including one 100 IP+ of one of the worst MLB pitchersā¦ duh duh duhā¦ Adam Eaton. Their ERA is only marginally above-average, and is better than a couple of the MLBās playoff teams.
Bakersdozenā¦love the avatar pic. I just have to laugh that the Yanks have a payroll about 4 times higher then the Rays and it got them nothing They had an off-year due to injuries. Next year I expect the Rays,Yankees,and Red Sux to all be a great force and will battle it out till the very end (I mean last game) next year possibly 90+ game winners for all of them
Yeah, just expect the Yanks to do better and the Rays do a little worse, and itāll be a dogfight out there.
[quote=āBakersdozenā]But that justifies that there pitching is terrible?
Myers had eight straight starts where his ERA was under 2.
And while Blanton hasnāt been stunning, heās been an improvement over who else they had before.
Look at Blantonās numbers and youāll know heāll be better. Heās a good starter, not great, but definitely good enough.[/quote]
yup he did go through a good stretch. three of those games came against pitt and washington. and now heās back to his usual erratic self. and blanton. he is what he is. no point in arguing with a phillies fan over these matters.