How do scouts "project"

what are some ways scouts “project” or predict velocity from high school pitchers

well most of the time they have this magical thing called a radar gun

obviously, but what are some ways that they predict further velocity beyond what the player has currently

oh ok i get you… they look at your size, how efficient your mechanics are, arm strength, how developed your body is, etc.
some others may be able to give you a little more info

Scouts use a system that states in numbers …like a 40-80 system that gives point in time to your present skill(s) and then that person “projects” a number based on a list of skills they beleive will be your future level.
40 being the lowest - 80 being the highest. This has been my experience. Other people and organizations may use a different agenda.

But, let me address to you another approach to your question.

Your question is common to every youngster that ever wanted to be considered for college or pro ball.

To answer your question totally and properly, I would have to address a complex maze of expectations and needs that every organization dispatches a scout with, much like a shopping list for the grocery store. And like a weekly shopping list, there are some things that are needed every week, every other week, or only for special occasions. So it goes with scouting for talent. Also on the agenda are compressed time schedules, available money (budget), formal agreements and “understandings” governing how-what-when and other actions that govern the prevailing customs at the time* (more on this later), and the available pool of who’s available and the expertise backing up the assigned or freelanced person(s) doing the actual scouting.

It would be very helpful to you, to know something about these people and the environment that governs their work. Now I know this doesn’t address your question directly – but it will, just have a little patience and read on.

Scouting is not as glamorous as some might think. There’s no fun sitting in a park, getting eaten alike by mosquitoes, constantly waving flies and small insects off your face, being baked by the sun, watching grown adults act like anything but adults, lopsided scores, drizzle that soaks you through and through – then getting in your car and wishing you had a shower right then and there … then turning on the air conditioner and getting a chill that stiffens all your shoulder and neck muscles. Then there’s observing who you there to watch in a meaningful way without being noticed, taking notes mentally/tape recorder/notepad and having all that make sense once you get back at your motel. Trying to compose your work at the motel while the people in the next room are singing 100 beer bottles on the wall… and then they lose count, a chill dog that just didn’t sit right and you find out AFTER your motel room is out of TP, a phone call at the front desk says you had three calls but you have to leave a hefty $ deposit before you phone can be turned on in your room, you call your reports in and the connection is so bad that every other words you here from the other end is … what?.. what?,
You want to fax your summary but the kid behind the front desk is new and he doesn’t know how to use the motel fax machine … that’s he pointing at … you tell him that’s not a fax machine … that’s the ice maker in the lobby. And on it goes. But enough of the all glitter and glamour.

Scouts do not attend events on a whim. Their there because of a specific reason and they bring a lot of ammo with them to either reinforce or reject the input arrived at thus far. Velocity is a small percentage of the stages in scouting someone and each phase of watching and evaluating is a basis for the next phase of observations.
Your velocity can be substandard by all accounts – but, the reason could be do to a minor adjustment that THIS particular scout can pickup. Notice that I capitalized THIS particular scout. Many scouts are specialists at homing in on pitching talent, hitting, fielding and so on. Others are generalists that let the organization and its evaluating sessions handle the detail work. But what’s most important is your WORKABILITY. How good are your natural talents “as is” to bring you along. Body language says a lot along with physical endowments, temperament, maturity, overall presence, self confidence, and a lot of other personal things that are displayed by your conduct on and off the field. Like I said before, scouts are preempted with information that they use and enhance or qualify so someone else can take it from there.

The most important thing to remember is that scouts play a vital role in the information stream of who and what you are. Their ability to keep working and drawing a paycheck relies on their intuition as well as their collection of data and observations. No scout in their right mind is going to give any positive remarks about a player that can’t be depended on to fit the image and conduct protocols of the organization that this scout represents. Ok, … honest evaluations on velocity, fielding and other skills will be noted … along with other qualities both positive and negative.

So, all of this boils down to dealing with someone who may not be in the best of moods on any particular day
and it would be just your luck to be making an appearance. The more positive you are in your actions and demeanor the less negative ammo you pass on to someone that can make a big difference in your future with this game/business.

Coach B.

  • There are numerous dictates that govern who and when scouts can do their thing. NCAA, MLB and other associations have mandates – formal and otherwise, that restrict certain actions by any one involved in the business of scouting and the business of follow-up.
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