Coaches crossing the line

I was wondering what everyone thinks about this situation.

6-0 (My team losing-we are 3-10 at the time). The batter hits a bullet past the second baseman. It was well out of the typical JV second baseman. My coach then proceeds to go off, telling all of the players on the bench (7+the other coach) “This is bullshit. That’s why he never gets to play. He’s too God damn slow”. In reality all three of our 2nd basemen are just about the exact same speed (within a few hundreths for the 40 yrd dash). He says things like this many times in each game–this was just one that really stuck out in my mind.

There was another time where our pitcher was struggling. Our coach proceeded to swear on the next 7 consecutive pitches.

Another time someone dropped the f bomb. He went off about all of the cussing. In his rant he cussed multiple times.

I was wondering what you think of this. I get very discusted when my coach acts like this–espically the first one, where he actually puts down the player’s skills. Am I just overreacting or is this guy acting like a jerk? How far is too far when it comes to what coaches say?

your gonna have to learn to deal with that. in high school and college levels coaches are very demanding and they are gonna blow up. you gotta be able to learn how to deal with the critisism and if you let it bother you ur gonna never last.

if you really have a problem with the JV coach’s behavior I suggest talking to the head baseball coach at your school. If you feel you need to, you can probably express your concerns to him.

Coaches shouldn’t act like that but they do. Coaches get nervous and frustrated because once they’ve put the players on the field there’s nothing more they can really do. Some coaches react to the nervousness and frustration the way this coach did. Most of the time it doesn’t mean anything and you are better off just ignoring it. Base your judgements on who plays and how much. At the JV level if the better players are playing a bit more and everyone is playing enough to get a chance to develop the coach is doing a great job and not much else matters.

Dis-ing your players in front of the fans and other team is bad!

If the other teams coach is a real rat , he will use it against your team and try to get inside a struggling players head even more. Not only that, the other teams players will sense it as well and begin to pile it on as well.

No kid wants to look bad in front of his parents and peers. No one feels worse about a bad play than the guy who just made it. No school official should cuss at a kid no matter how mad he gets.

If this is the school JV team talking with the head coach is a good idea like another poster said. The schools AD might also be a good choice; however, His coaches ire may be taken out on YOUR kid so consider carefully.

I always thought that the most dis-ing of your own team was to make them run after the game while the other team watches, but this was a team punishment, not calling out specific guys. I watched my daughter’s highschool (fastpitch) team run after a particuarly bad game until every last one of them puked. They had to run right infront of the team that just killed them. It made the point.

Once you get into collageball, or select or even upper level rec leagues, you are there to win. You play there because you can. Tough coaches are part of that, but I think you can be a tough coach without swearing/humiliating your players.

Ian

The thing that bugs me it that, not only does he critizise his own team (in an unconstructive manner) but he is never positive. I bet I could count the number of positive things he’s said on one hand.

He is one of my least favorite (and just about everyone on my team’s) coaches.

He plays favorites really bad (Our “star” leadoff guy batted .207 and made 6 errors in center, our #1,#2 and #3 SP’s (in his opinion) had the following ERA’s 7.59, 10.45 and 15.43 while everyone else combined for about about 4 something–I had a 0.00 era with a K/9 IP about 12 :smiley: but only got to pitch in 2 games :? )

He led one of the most talented teams in the county to a 3-11 record.

Sorry about my rant–I was just thinking about how awful of a coach he really was, now that our seasons over.

sounds like an asshole

i’ve only had one coach like that but it was rec league ball…he’s this kids dad…and he wasn’t our coach, but our coaches went on a fishing trip one weekend and left this kids dad in charge. I had been batting 3rd the entire season and playing every inning at SS.

This guy comes in and I bat 8th, and he sits me 3 of the 7 innings…I played 1st base when i was out there. Now I simply think its funny. I ended up getting the game winning single right down the 3rd base line that game

i still hate that guy…guess who played SS and batted 3rd that game? his son, lol

when the regular coaches returned, i returned to my 3 spot and SS position

ehh our assistant coach knows nothing of the sport, but thiks he does…he is a football coach, u make a misake no matter how minor, u have 25 push ups…but when the outfield makes a mistake during warm ups thats 100 push up, and 5 flag poles…this woulnt be so bad if there was ann actual reason…in my opinion you cant be punished for not being fast enough to get a fly ball, or catching with 2 hads…as a firstbase men. he tries to steal bases with people who run a 6 flat 40 yard dash, and once before a game, wen one person was throwing knuckle balls during warm up we all had 100 mountain climers, 100 push ups, and 5 flag poles…that game we should have won but instead we got crushed…

That’s pretty bad as far as playing favorites. Then again we had a kid who was 0 for or 1 for the season starting at 2nd about 2/3 of the way through the season. He finished the season hitting about .080 or .060 in about 50 at bats starting the entire time and leading off or batting second in most of the games. He was well known to be a family friend of the coach. It tore the team apart as he was also appointed team captain and used the position to cut down the other players. When he convinced some of the players to not do some drills they were supposed to be doing and they were caught, the players who told the coach what had happened sat the next game while the favorite started. When one kid complained he was kicked off the team and the AD had to step in to keep that from happening. Now that summer ball has started the parents are complaining because all the other kids treat him poorly. The reality is that the kid is a bad seed who is likely to end up in prison and the parents haven’t a clue.

After that the entire team voted him out as team captain and voted in my son. I made my son tell them the next day that they couldn’t do that and that it was up to the coach.

If the record was a loosing one, this is school board stuff. I would take the tac that the school team needs a change or funding will be slashed.

This worked with my daughters fast pitch team. We told the AD that either the head coach would be removed or we would oppose any school levy that came up on the basis of poor performance by the softball team. The coach resigned before she could be removed.

I guess this would depend on your states school funding. In Ohio where schools are funded by millage from property taxes voted on by the pople, it can be a powerful tool. School admin people do not want to hear stuff like this and will remove the offending persons if enough people band together.

Anyone batting .060 needs to ride pine! Frankly he should be cut from next years team…Ian.

Exasperation is one thing. But behaving like a spoiled two-year-old is something else again. Reading some of these posts I was reminded of my kid sister at the age of two (yes, the “terrible twos”). Those coaches could well have written the book on temper tantrums, because that was exactly what they were indulging in.
Consider Yogi Berra when he had just come up to the Yankees and was learning the ropes. In one game he lollygagged down to first base and was thrown out, and the other team scored the tying run in the process. When he returned to the dugout he was met by an icy stare from teammate Joe DiMaggio: “Are you feeling all right?” Berra answered in the affirmative, yes, he was feeling all right, whereupon DiMaggio went after him: “Then why the h— didn’t you run out that hit?” Joe D did not have to resort to a temper tantrum; he just laid it on the line in no uncertain terms. From then on, Berra hustled all the way.
Q.E.D.

A statement like that conjures up all kinds of ideas and conditions. What comes to mind for a lot of folks is their interpretation of what that LINE is. And embracing that mindset is usually a spectrum of scenarios that’s very dynamic.

For example, do any of these personality traits come to mind:
patronage, cronyism, incompetent, belligerent, stubborn, rude, selfish, arrogant, indignant, gruffness, single-minded, … oh and let’s toss in the ole … BO just for good measure.

If I’ve missed anything, by all means add your ideas.

But you know, people aren’t born with these traits, nor do they stay up nights practicing how to develop them either. People are conditioned by the environment that they’re in more than some people would like to admit. It’s just easier to slap a sign on somebody and walk away and say that’s that. However, under no circumstances am I accepting any of behavior mentioned heretofore.

Coaches have a responsibility that imprints itself long before he/she gets to the field, classroom, locker, training room, and so forth. It’s called a code of ethics. ANY and EVERY coach who accepts the title is governed by these protocols. And regardless of the sport, these protocols are pretty basic and don’t require a lot in the ole brain bucket to comprehend. A code of ethics first outlines the competency of personal behavior and interaction with people who depend upon the coach(s) for personal qualities like honesty, balance, maturity and a lot of other stuff you and I are raised to respect and admire. A solid mirror of good citizenship and leadership that his/her charges can admire and emulate. After that, the sports aspect just falls in place regardless of the knowledge base – speculative and operative. I seen tons of coaches who were short on the sport specific talents, but their personal behavior and interaction with everyone promoted an atmosphere of respect and cooperation that was really amazing to witness.

I’ve been part of and have conducted clinics of all kinds – pitching specific, and I have the highest respect and admiration for the coach(s) that introduce a specialist like me by first admitting the reasons why I was invited in the first place. These coach(s) felt their charges would be much better served by myself and others – rather than trying to play the music themselves.

On the other hand, some adults are subject to peer pressures from other adults. Membership in fraternal organizations, booster clubs, employer/employee relationships can add expectations to an already tough sell… and win –lose-or draw by people outside of ones control (you) can make this relationship a real nightmare. Adults are judged entirely different than young people. The adult margin for error is less forgiving than yours. Add to this the repeated label of “not having a winner” around you as an adult, does nothing for one’s self esteem. Adults also have a mean streak to them that can perpetuate a sense of “getting up” by “getting down” on some on else. It’s like watching a small chicken being pecked to death by a group of larger, stronger chickens.

So, a lot of the actions that you see by an adult can be a knee-jerk reaction that preceded your involvement with the team. And before you jump the gun and see the “jerk” first, remember how tough it may be for this adult who’s calling himself/herself your coach. There are however obvious examples of the individual(s) that are a poster child for “putts-of-the-year.” And if you think these people are a real work of art while playing ball…just wait till you’re in the job market and one of these bright-lights says…” Wow … do you believe this… I just got promoted to area manager. Cool … you’re now working for me… isn’t that great!!”

Coach B.

The coach on the opposing team in one of my games was nuts. He got so mad, yelled at the kids and even his son. Then after a “bad” call he threw his water bottle on the cement ground of the dugout and it exploded.

Wow, this is from '06.

Sounds like what some major leaguers do after a bad play or a strikeout—they go after the water cooler, and does that ever make a mess of the dugout floor! Or they throw their batting helmets on the floor and stomp on them, or they snap their bats in half. When a player—or a coach or manager—throws a temper tantrum, I don’t know whether to laugh or to say “tsk, tsk”. I guess some people never completely grow up.

This took place in a 12-U league a couple years ago, though. Way to be a role model, “Coach”.