[quote=“LankyLefty”]from left to right, and then top to bottom, we have
Steven strasburg, throwing upper 90s, a 16 year old high school player (I’ll let you guys take a stab at his velocity), Josh Beckett throwing mid-upper 90s, Aaron Crow throwing mid 90s, Josh Beckett throwing 100 mph, Oliver Perez 94 mph, Edinson Volquez 95 mph, Brian Wilson 98 mph, Ervin Santana 98 mph, Ryan Dempster 98 mph, Roy Oswalt 95 mph, Mariano Rivera mid-upper 90s, Jason Schmidt 94 mph, Bill Wagner 101 mph, Ben Sheets 97 mph, CC Sabathia 97 mph
to get anything out of this .gif or ay clip for that matter you need to be able to go through them frame by frame and compare them.
Download “virtual dub” to do this. It’s free.[/quote]
I completely disagree with your analysis. Rivera works out at our facility back east and most certainly DOES NOT advocate leading with the elbows. In fact, I don’t think most of the guys you are showing lead with the elbows and the ones that do (to some extent) have a history of arm problems. Leading with the elbow produces rotator cuff impingement and bad timing in external rotation. Kids as young as 8 or 9 that I have worked with that lead with the elbow have shown increased soreness in the back and nearly all exhibit loss of ROM in internal rotation.
So called Scap Loading DOES NOT happen as a result of throwing arm action and stating so shows a complete lack of understanding of the concept. Scap Loading occurs when the front shoulder opens, LONG after the throwing arm has completed its arc and is (hopefully) in a forearm vertical position. I am to the point where I completely cringe at the mention of the term Scap Loading because it is so misunderstood.
I’d also question what point you are making by advocating leading with the elbow and then posting these pitchers velocity. Are you in some way suggesting that leading with the elbow is a way to create/increase velocity? Arm path has no bearing on velocity.
I hate to be so negative in response, but this is a really bad and potentially dangerous post, IMHO. I would really like to know at what frame in the motion of Rivera and Oswalt, in particular, you feel they are leading with the elbow.
I’d also like to see frames where you feel a pitcher is scap loading prior to their front shoulder opening.