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PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008    Post subject: how to tell if tommy john surgery is needed Reply with quote

i pitched in a game yesterday and today my elbow feels sore. it hurts some when i put pressure on it. and it's in the same area as the ucl (tommy john ligament). i also had a basketball game today and it didn't bother me any. i want to know if my elbow is damaged or if i just have a sore elbow.


i'm not playing any baseball until february so i have time to recover
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PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody on here will be able to tell you. Try resting for a few days, if it's still a problem, go see a doc.
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PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude, if you need tommy john, you wouldnt even be able to lift your elbow
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PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

king.navarro34 wrote:
dude, if you need tommy john, you wouldnt even be able to lift your elbow
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This is not always true.

I've seen players throw through partial ucl tears that have needed tj.
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PostPosted: Nov 24, 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

well if it hurts every day and it doesnt stop
then something is wrong
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PostPosted: Nov 25, 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hammer wrote:
king.navarro34 wrote:
dude, if you need tommy john, you wouldnt even be able to lift your elbow
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This is not always true.

I've seen players throw through partial ucl tears that have needed tj.


It really isn't true at all.

Partially tore my UCL as a sophomore in high school and never required surgery. It only bothered me very infrequently. Occassional pain, some numbness but it never fully tore. Most pitchers that damage their UCL don't completely rupture it and a fair amount will try to rehab and pitch through it before resorting to TJ surgery.

That said, the initial injury was extremely painful and that 3 months of rehab was tough. But compared to the year for TJ, I'll take it.
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PostPosted: Nov 25, 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

it hurt some in the game and after, but the pain was not very bad. when apply pressure to it , it feels more like a bruise. and i played basketball fine and tennis. so i'm guessing i just starined it a little to much.
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PostPosted: Nov 25, 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ehhh, my guess would be tendonitis, "tennis elbow". Just go get it checked out by a doctor and try not to throw until then
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PostPosted: Nov 25, 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably just an everyday overuse injury. Rest it if you want to get rid of it, but seriously rest it, like for weeks. It doesn't sound too bad, though, so just be smart with it. Not to mention, trying a new tennis raquet, trying new pitches and doing things you don't normally do with your elbow can cause pain too.
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PostPosted: Nov 26, 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya threw some rocks earlier today and didn't have any pain. so i think i just need to rest, and i'll be good
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PostPosted: Nov 26, 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds more to me like tendonitis. Go see a doctor if that's a possibilty for you, because, as far as I'm aware, we don't have any doctors on this bored. ):
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PostPosted: Jan 07, 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. The Ulnar Collateral Ligament, UCL, is not used for "lifting your elbow." It's a stabilizer that when pitching or throwing is put under extreme stress.

2. There are really only a couple of ways you can damage, tear, or rupture the UCL. The overhead throwing motion just happens to the be the "worst."

3. You can live a complete, happy, and normal life with a damaged, torn, or ruptured UCL.

4. There are 2 reasons people typically undergo UCL reconstruction or Tommy John's as it's known to the baseball/sports community.
a) You are a throwing athlete who needs a healthy UCL to perform at 100%, or b) you can live without getting it repaired, but it caused you great pain and inhibits living life pain free.

5. If you think you tore your UCL, go see a doctor. To me, it sounds like overuse, but my opinion means nothing. It never hurts to go see a doctor.
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