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shaner528
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PostPosted: Aug 05, 2009    Post subject: How to pitch faster Reply with quote


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I am 13 (almost 14) and I am trying really hard to improve my pitching speed. The last time I had my pitches clocked I threw about mid 50s, and this simply isn't fast enough for me to be dominating at my age anymore. Sad

Please take a look at my video and critique my delivery in terms of how I could change it to pitch faster. In this video I throw 3 fastballs, 3 curves, and 3 changeups in that order from each camera angle.
Here is the like again in case the above doesn't work www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKuYy_FSQIA

Note: I do throw slightly faster on a mound but pitching out front of my house is more convienient to do everyday.

THANKS!!
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PostPosted: Aug 05, 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lift your leg higher.
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PostPosted: Aug 06, 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the circle movement during the slide step. When you pitch you arm just stays up and you throw it. you wanna get a nice smooth whipping action. (veteran pitchers please correct me if im wrong. lol)
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PostPosted: Aug 06, 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Follow through with your pitches! Get down and grab some dirt. You just seem to spin around sort of. Have the ball of your throwing shoulder be directly at your target for the follow through, then let the body and legs come around.
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PostPosted: Aug 06, 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really want to improve in velocity you need to get stronger. You don't look very big and probably have alot more growing to do. This offseason you need to get a general strengthening program. If you can increase your strength then you can change your mechanics to better suit your strength levels, which would potentially lead to more velocity. If you need a general strength program I would be glad to give one to you.


Mechanically, You seem almost robotic with your leg lift. I like your follow through how you continue to go through the release point and don't shortcut your arm. You need to get more core involved. It seems like you mainly use your arm. this could go again to the general strength level that you are at. I would say that you need to flex your back more and really drive your chest forward as your arm comes around which will help you get out in front more and extend down more. Seeing as your not very big and may not be very strong (I mean no offense btw) you might have trouble with some of that.
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PostPosted: Aug 06, 2009    Post subject: general strength program Reply with quote

Priceless... it would be great if u could give me a general strengthening program! I never know what to do when I workout. you can email me it at shaner528@aol.com or post it here. thanks
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PostPosted: Aug 06, 2009    Post subject: Get Dirt? Reply with quote

Billybob09 wrote:
Follow through with your pitches! Get down and grab some dirt. You just seem to spin around sort of. Have the ball of your throwing shoulder be directly at your target for the follow through, then let the body and legs come around.


I haven't seen to many MLB pitchers reach down and grab dirt. Most, if not all, finish across their body after hip rotation. Look at Roger at the top of the page.
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PostPosted: Aug 06, 2009    Post subject: Re: Get Dirt? Reply with quote

Goody20 wrote:
Billybob09 wrote:
Follow through with your pitches! Get down and grab some dirt. You just seem to spin around sort of. Have the ball of your throwing shoulder be directly at your target for the follow through, then let the body and legs come around.


I haven't seen to many MLB pitchers reach down and grab dirt. Most, if not all, finish across their body after hip rotation. Look at Roger at the top of the page.


Chirpin on his first post, i'm lovin it. I think what he's trying to say is emphasize reaching for the ground to work on the follow through. Of course most guys don't actually grab the dirt i'm sure that might cause more problems then help.
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PostPosted: Aug 06, 2009    Post subject: Re: general strength program Reply with quote

[quote="shaner528"]Priceless... it would be great if u could give me a general strengthening program! I never know what to do when I workout. you can email me it at shaner528@aol.com or post it here. thanks[/quote]

Before I get one for you, tell me if you have access to like a weight room, medicine balls, and other things of that nature. Because I would hate to give you a program where you couldn't implement it.

And with the follow through things, as long as a pitcher eventually puts his throwing shoulder on line with home after release and he has no command issues hes fine. Lower arm slots tend to follow through toward 1st or third re, while higher guys tend to finish closer to parallel to the ground
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PostPosted: Aug 06, 2009    Post subject: Re: general strength program Reply with quote

Priceless wrote:
shaner528 wrote:
Priceless... it would be great if u could give me a general strengthening program! I never know what to do when I workout. you can email me it at shaner528@aol.com or post it here. thanks


Before I get one for you, tell me if you have access to like a weight room, medicine balls, and other things of that nature. Because I would hate to give you a program where you couldn't implement it.

And with the follow through things, as long as a pitcher eventually puts his throwing shoulder on line with home after release and he has no command issues hes fine. Lower arm slots tend to follow through toward 1st or third re, while higher guys tend to finish closer to parallel to the ground


When the hips fire in a circular direction..where does the arm go? Down? No.
Priceless said it correct when he said,"...guys tend to finish closer to parallel to the ground. Be careful what cues you use because it could completely disconnect the arm from the core(power source).
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PostPosted: Aug 07, 2009    Post subject: Re: general strength program Reply with quote

Goody20 wrote:
Priceless wrote:
shaner528 wrote:
Priceless... it would be great if u could give me a general strengthening program! I never know what to do when I workout. you can email me it at shaner528@aol.com or post it here. thanks


Before I get one for you, tell me if you have access to like a weight room, medicine balls, and other things of that nature. Because I would hate to give you a program where you couldn't implement it.

And with the follow through things, as long as a pitcher eventually puts his throwing shoulder on line with home after release and he has no command issues hes fine. Lower arm slots tend to follow through toward 1st or third re, while higher guys tend to finish closer to parallel to the ground


When the hips fire in a circular direction..where does the arm go? Down? No.
Priceless said it correct when he said,"...guys tend to finish closer to parallel to the ground. Be careful what cues you use because it could completely disconnect the arm from the core(power source).


Whoa whoa man. Take it easy fella! It's just a saying my coach used when i wasn't following through. While the arm doesn't go down, it does keep the momentum of the body towards home plate. (As the cue said "grab some dirt" you can't grab the dirt if your back is upright.) But then again, the arm going down has nothing to do with the follow through of the body. The cue isn't for the arm, but for rather to help make the back or torso, which ever part you want to use, parallel to the ground. The arm can do whatever it pleases since the ball would have already been released.

It's just a cue man, settle down. Would you rather have me say "Go grab the first baseman! He didn't pick the throw last time"? It's a cue for the body not the arm.

Also, there are pitchers who do bring that arm or hands close the ground. Check out Nolan Ryan.


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PostPosted: Aug 07, 2009    Post subject: general strengthening program Reply with quote

Priceless... I do not currently have access to a weight room. However, I will when I enter 9th grade in about a month. So its up to you, I will be able to use all those things in about a month. Thanks!
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